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I never bought into the "neocon" and "neolib" categories. They just seem like a rebranding of Repubs and Dems to me - a way to retrick people into believing there are two distinct groups of elites who compete, rather than the near monolithic blob that they actually are.
btw, the 'Socialist' policies adopted by Hitler.
btw, the 'Socialist' policies adopted by Hitler. https://t.co/ia0FbVbNM5
@jonnysocialism We agree that Jimmy Dore is ignorant, but Cornel West should know better. West is the bigger liar.
Perhaps the dumbest f'ing interaction you could have between two self-described independents is arguing about whether Biden or Trump is more fascist. Completely unserious dialogue from both of them.
Perhaps the dumbest f'ing interaction you could have between two self-described independents is arguing about whether Biden or Trump is more fascist. Completely unserious dialogue from both of them.
@danielpayette @phortuenti I do, in this case. I didn't agree with everything Jimmy said in this interview/debate, and I even think Cornel raised a few good points, but ultimately, I'm with Jimmy on this one.
British colonialism killed about 100 million people. US imperialism has killed an untold number, likely larger, since its inception in the late 18th century. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Capitalism is a murderous system.
@SpiritofHo The imperialism began the day after the American Insurrection, if not before, depending on how you want to look at it.
@philthatremains The Soviet Union defeated the Nazis at the cost of 27 million lives. This propaganda is a pathetic self-own.
@SpiritofHo @realnikohouse @ComptonMadeMe Woke liberals like Cornel West do their part in driving further the racial divide by constantly shrieking about race and "white supremacy," elevating it above class. They seem to forget that the working class is multi-racial.
Cornel on Jimmy. Class and Race. What is your plan to organize around class lines or are you going to just continue to talk about white supremacy?
@phortuenti @danielpayette "Resources diverted for defense and security put a damper on certain civil rights and on standards of living when it came to consumer goods. (Parenti, 1997, pp. 49 – 51)" 5
@phortuenti @danielpayette "They really were under constant attack by the U.S. and its capitalist allies through use of propaganda, psychological warfare, economic sanction, sabotage, infiltration, and threat of military force. 4
@phortuenti @danielpayette Think about it, the ruling class is not going to allow a genuine Marxist to gain much traction here. If they have celebrity status like West, Wolff or Chomsky, you can bet they're assets, especially if they repeat CIA talking points slandering really existing socialism.
@phortuenti @danielpayette This article lays out my thinking in this regard. prolecenter.wordpress.com/2021/06/22/chr…
@MarxianDialogu1 It reduces class to just one “identity” among many. But class isn’t simply an identity, it’s a material relation of production, and it holds a unique place compared to race or gender.
Y’all, look at the state of western Marxists. Just look at it. Any trace of materialism has been wiped out, replaced by pure subjective idealism and radical individualism.
Y’all, look at the state of western Marxists. Just look at it. Any trace of materialism has been wiped out, replaced by pure subjective idealism and radical individualism.
I am sorry for those who did not know that West has raging TDS prior to this interview, but it's been an extremely consistent blind spot for him. If only now you're figuring out West has some liberal tendencies, that's on you.
This is how the topic should have started. The second it became a lesser evil debate and two dudes arguing over the minutiae of each candidate's "brand" of fascism, they both lost the plot because Trump and Biden are both ontologically evil.
This is how the topic should have started. The second it became a lesser evil debate and two dudes arguing over the minutiae of each candidate's "brand" of fascism, they both lost the plot because Trump and Biden are both ontologically evil.
@phortuenti The right answer is and always has been both are fascists.
The professional left criticized Biden but ultimately closed ranks because Bad Orange Man It once criticized Big Pharma and Davos but closed ranks with them vs the truckers Its critiques are hollow when in times of crisis, it reflexively closes ranks w the liberal establishment

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