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    hackaday @hackaday

    5 years ago

    Updating the Language of SPI Pin Labels to Remove Casual References to Slavery This morning the Open Source Hardware Association (OSHWA) announced a resolution for changing the way SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) pins are labelled on hardware and in d… hackaday.com/2020/06/29/upd…

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    Deveyes @deveyes

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Because silicon lives matter. This is the stupidest thing I've seen today, north Americans need to address their internal discrimination issues and stop lashing out at established nomenclature, which solves nothing.

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    Schuppenzot @Schuppenzot1

    5 years ago

    @hackaday So in order to make slavery disappear we stop talking about it. I don't know how else I should interpret this nonsense.

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    Patrick Van Oosterwijck @[email protected] @xorbit1

    5 years ago

    @hackaday @tindie My feeling about this is that while it's obviously wrong to enslave humans, this does not apply to our electronics. If one device is in charge and the other has no choice but to follow its orders, then master and slave are appropriate names to describe their roles.

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    CVBruce @CVBruce

    5 years ago

    @hackaday This is great news. Before reading the article, I couldn't think of alternative names, but the new names are not only better, but more accurate in the description.

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    Marek Karcz @makarcz

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Another one bites the dust, bowing to the terror of the mob. Another attempt to rewrite the history by language policing. What did these morons think censoring the word will do? Fix what happened in the past, eliminate the concept from society?

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    Loc @kmal_loc

    5 years ago

    @hackaday *sweats in I2C*

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    Rushil Soni @rushilRFsoni

    5 years ago

    @hackaday WTF? Might as well change the colour of the ICs.. They are mostly black.. And people might say that engineers who tend to burn out ICs do not respect black lives.. 🤷‍♂️

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    düz vatandaş @muratkancaoglu

    5 years ago

    @hackaday please tell me this is a joke "slave" is such a wide topic

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    KHAJAS @OrderOfEntropy

    5 years ago

    @hackaday I2C also, it is encouraging upto 127 slaves. Brutal than SPI.

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    Nick Sayer @nwsayer

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Political correctness at its finest. #ChefKiss

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    Zack Whitlock @zackwhit

    5 years ago

    @hackaday I think it's racist to have subservient chips at all! Remove all peripherals! Everyone must use a general purpose CPU for every application!

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    William Brasky @BillBraskySofB

    5 years ago

    @hackaday I sure am seeing a bunch of angry white dudes in these comments... Not one black voice. That's the problem. Little changes like this are easy. They do no harm, and only good. Do not act like these labels give a history lesson. Was getting rid of cream of wheat's derogatory 1/2

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    kal9001 @kal9001

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Or better yet. Main in Secondary out / Main out, Secondary in ;)

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    kal9001 @kal9001

    5 years ago

    @hackaday CS instead of SS is used a lot already anyway. MISO/MOSI could be replaced with the CIPO/COPI without much issue. It's one of the less aggravating changes of the ones I've heard for other things. Don't like SDO/SDI though, at a glace looks too much like SDA/SCL that i2c uses.

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    David Prutchi ❤️🇮🇱🟦 N2QG📡〰️🌓〰️〰️🪐🛰 @DavidPrutchi

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Completely ridiculous! Soon we won’t know what plugs into what because defining connector genders will be forbidden, and good that we don’t use CRTs anymore because electron *guns* are sure to “trigger” someone.

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    JayMiner @JayMiner8

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Maybe it's because english is not my first language and master and slave have for me only this meaning, but I find this was not needed. Then why only change the names... let's kill the protocol entirely, because it's based on the idea of slavery, doesn't matter the names you use.

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    Kim Poulsen @dartfrogdk

    5 years ago

    @hackaday YOu people are sick, think you can erase history!!!!

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    GenesisMachines @GenesisMachines

    5 years ago

    @hackaday This appears to be a huge amount of work to update libraries, documentation, programming lessons and forum posts. I don't see all this work making anyone's life better or happier. No modern day slave is going to be thankful, nobody calling for these changes will be satisfied.

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    𝙊𝙏𝙏𝙊 𝙄𝙤𝙨𝙞𝙛 @octav_iosif

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Imagine if Germany had a bus with pins named 'nazi in, jew out' that's how I look at it.. Still silly to make such a huge change.

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    Dieter von These @Nilpferdlager

    5 years ago

    @hackaday So....how's the naming when a SPI slave is also a controller?

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    Technivorous @Technivorous

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Employer-employee....

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    धनंजय गद्रे Dhananjay Gadre @dvgadre

    5 years ago

    @hackaday What next? Change the resistor colour codes? Why black is 0 and white a high number?

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    धनंजय गद्रे Dhananjay Gadre @dvgadre

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Or maybe change color of ICs from black to white or brown? Afterall, why should black ICs do all the work?

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    Groggynod3D @Groggynod2

    5 years ago

    @hackaday While you're at it change the word controller too. That also seems oppressive and like something that takes away freedom.

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    Conrad Braam🤖 @zaphodikus

    5 years ago

    @hackaday This makes the non obvious assumption that the oppressed person thinks that they are a slave already, and that "mastering" electronics as a skill is impossible.

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    bitin biden @lesk_top

    5 years ago

    @hackaday HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    The Developer Guy @thembeddevguy

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Change it to KIGO - GIKO (Kulak In - Gulag Out, Gulag In - Kulak Out) and pretend slavery or even more horrible things never existed outside the US. Some of my relatives were taken to malenkaya rabota, still not protesting against the name "robot" because it's insane!

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    RecklessEngineer @SortOfSolved

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Yeah, change the naming, that makes all the difference to the hell-hole conditions in electronics manufacture. This is so ducking fumb that polite language can't describe it.

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    Duane Benson @duanebenson

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Don't forget about I2C, my chip to chip interface of choice. It still uses slavery derived terms that need to be changed as well. Our language needs to be cleaned up in a lot of places, really.

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    William Brasky @BillBraskySofB

    5 years ago

    @hackaday 2/2 branding in the 70's erasing history? Or was it a small change signaling that culture had shifted to be more aware of these things.

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    Jeremy Cook 🤖 @JeremySCook

    5 years ago

    @hackaday As one of the comments noted, if this is going to be changed, why not master/subsidiary to avoid confusion with the acronyms?

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    spacevwv @spacevw

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Will apple adopt the change?

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    Conrad Braam🤖 @zaphodikus

    5 years ago

    @hackaday One assumes we will be removing the appellation Mister, which stems from master at the same time?

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    Stafr Gotar @GuzTheFuz

    5 years ago

    @hackaday Well, well, well. That's definitely going to make this a better world to live in. Fantastic initiative, especially since it's evident it's got absolutely nothing at all to do with being Politically Correct. Does it mean the BLM is over and done with?

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    Greg W Yoder @GregWYoder

    5 years ago

    @hackaday In the examples given it is more accurate to use controller and peripheral. Chip Select makes more sense than Slave Select. Master/Slave aren't technical terms and it is great to remove them from the technology lexicon.👍

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