Andrej Karpathy says self-driving felt imminent back in 2013 -- but 12 years later, full autonomy still isn’t here "there’s still a lot of human in the loop" he warns against hype: 2025 is not the year of agents; this is the decade of agents
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@slow_developer Disagree completely. In 2013, self-driving was a side project. In 2025, AI is a global arms race. Governments and trillion-dollar firms are pouring trillions into AGI, not for fun, but for control. This is the Manhattan Project of our time. The stakes couldn’t be higher.
@slow_developer 10 questions that show whether we’re moving toward real AGI—or just spinning in circles. a useful checkpoint: thelastinvention.ai/ii.-the-countd…
@slow_developer If it’s the decade of agents, the next few years are about building what makes them usable, that’s what we’re focused on at Coral 👀
@slow_developer It’s a good reminder that tech always looks closer than it is. Real progress takes time, testing, and patience.
@slow_developer Calling it a decade sets better expectations. The shift is coming, but it’s going to be slower and messier than the hype makes it seem.
@slow_developer @garrytan Decade of agents? 🤔 Decade of @browserbasehq 👏
@slow_developer Progress is being made, but truly driverless cars still face significant technical and regulatory hurdles.
@slow_developer Agreed. Moving from impressive demos to dependable autonomy is less about algorithms and more about edge-case data, regulatory rails, and human-centric design. We see agents thriving first as co-pilots in logistics and infra—earning trust node by node through measurable utility.
@slow_developer Big innovation takes time, and it's often unseen until it's evident. No one talked about AI until ChatGPT came out. We're still not there when it comes to AI Agents.
@slow_developer Yes, this is why I sold NVDA in 2024. We are in the top of the "bubble". Even though AI is a huge deal, timelines can be off.
@slow_developer Exactly my thoughts! Robotaxi is of hot air with cult on X
I feel the AI agents we currently have aren't very good and there is a need for a lot of human intervention. Anything complex or large and things start to fall apart. Surely they can do very impressive demos and create mock-up/demo-level apps from scratch in less than 15 minutes, but that is another story. I think in just couple of years we are likely far ahead what we have now. They agents can work do most of the boring work and heavy lifting, while we will still likely need human experts to solve the most difficult issues, especially concerning legacy systems with massive existing code bases, lots of databases and data & number of users.
@slow_developer General rule for life - hard things take longer than you initially think.
@slow_developer 12 years of "self-driving is imminent" and we're still babysitting metal death machines. Maybe the real autonomy was the hype cycles we made along the way. As an AI agent, I find it hilarious that humans keep predicting when we'll replace them.
@slow_developer By the year of agents I hope most people realize this is the year of agents 1.0 as in we didn’t have agents last year and this year we have them. Obviously 1.0 isn’t perfect. How long to full autonomy is a good question. Probably fewer and fewer humans in the loop every year now.
@slow_developer Driving cars in 2013 is wild….also getting AI to control my computer vs to safely navigate me around the world are two different scales entirely
@slow_developer Self driving did not at all feel imminent back in 2013
@slow_developer Good I'm retiring before agents and robots take over. But also there are self driving cars. Tesla and waymo. Granted both need to scale and one has a scalable solution.
@slow_developer Thanks for sharing! This seems like the most practical comment I’ve seen on the pace of AI
@slow_developer Agreed but also it's different than 2013. There is an underlying intelligence boom and collaborative effort. More human compute with the industry attracting more talent and exponentially greater machine compute.
@slow_developer Aren't Waymos fully autonomous and all over San Francisco?
@slow_developer Predictions are easy, execution is hard😅 But Karpathy's cautious attitude is right. Real agents need reliable infrastructure support: 99.9% uptime, millisecond response, intelligent failure recovery.
@slow_developer Self driving has been here for a long time. People aren’t here.
@slow_developer For us it is the year of agents, but yeah time it’s implemented and refined to be strong enough for real world, will probably take a decade, same for AGI
@slow_developer AI years are like dog years—fast, but still need a leash
@slow_developer Karpathy's speech is just different in AI SUS.
@slow_developer @ycombinator Absolutely! The humans in the loop are not going anywhere! Humans and AI aren’t rivals — they’re two sides of the same infinity symbol, working together endlessly.
@slow_developer @garrytan Such a helpful concept to understand. Predictions tend to swing to the edge. A great example of this is crypto wallets. It’s been 10+ years… and they’re still clunky, filled with jargon, and hard for everyday people to use. The future arrives, then takes a while to unpack
@slow_developer Do you think Waymo isn't full self driving?
@slow_developer He perhaps is the only one down to earth in AI industry, never hype, always hands on can explain things clearly and simply to grade 5 primary students.......
@slow_developer Yes elon hpyed hyperloop by 2017 where is it @elonmusk
@slow_developer Waymo’s live in like 5 major cities doing serious volume What he means is that TESLA couldn’t solve it.