What I've come to realize is that a lot of people are much more comfortable with a world where overzealous public health policies cause anxious parents to withdraw than a world where underzealous public health policies cause disinterested parents to skip interventions In the former case, they feel accountability falls with the parent and in the latter case, with the society. This is what the "bottom quintile" meme is pointing at
What I've come to realize is that a lot of people are much more comfortable with a world where overzealous public health policies cause anxious parents to withdraw than a world where underzealous public health policies cause disinterested parents to skip interventions In the former case, they feel accountability falls with the parent and in the latter case, with the society. This is what the "bottom quintile" meme is pointing at
The result is that when you screw up, that's on you, and when they screw up, that's also on you
@webdevMason Something I have noticed is that people whose authority is borrowed (derived from some credential/organisational post rather than created charismatically) often have no understanding of trust. So when it goes away they have no idea what to do but to obliviously repeat themselves.
'eh. Up until very very recently the "overzealous" public health posture had lead to near universal vaccination rates. So from a pure measurement perspective it was achieving the desirable outcome. It's honestly a bit weird (and multi-causal imho - covid of course being on of the major causes) that this has seemingly broken down so much.
@webdevMason we're about to this sort of thing with every institution.
@webdevMason This is the inherent problem with trying to "target" etc public health messaging. Any centralized bureaucracy needs to be very limited in their public pronouncements. The role should not be cheerleader or shrink, but rather dry statements of clear and verified information.
@webdevMason In Los Angeles, from what I've seen, vaccinations or lack thereof have been decided by cliques or communities. Like most things, it is based on identity, not responsibility or scientific consensus.
@webdevMason I’m fine punishing parents that don’t get vaccines for their kids either because they are checked out or because they read a bunch of nonsense online. Both seem bottom quintile to me.
@webdevMason I think there are way more disinterested than anxious parents in the general population. Sane defaults with permissive exceptions was...such a good idea...
@webdevMason The thing you really have to appreciate is in everything, every single thing, there are way more disinterested people than in any other category, and in vaccines especially volume really matters.
@webdevMason What we haven't solved is that herd immunity for society means asking the individual to take risks of being the 0.05% so that risk on society as a whole is lower, and the state handles that by lying to people and denying there is a 0.05% risk.
@webdevMason that’s an incredibly stupid way to order societal priorities. the disinterested parents are still going to skip the interventions so all you’re doing is making anxious parents worse
@webdevMason I suspect they want a overzealous public health policies because they want to dodge personal resonsiblity, and just do what the government tells them to do.
@webdevMason I suppose I don't broadly mind this bc anxious parents will be that way regardless. The children ofthe disinterested parents will be the innocent victims of their parents ignorance. And you can protect more of them by tailoring policy that way than you can catering to the anxious
@webdevMason yes also i assume disinterested is much higher numbers than anxious
@webdevMason Which specific overzealous public health policies caused parents to start skipping routine vaccinations in the year 2020
@webdevMason Honestly we need to as a society stop catering to the bottom quintile because they are clearly out breeding the top quintile